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and senate signed a bill to suspend the debt ceiling until may. that is called suspending the debt ceiling, you raise the debt ceiling so you put a lid on what the government can spend. when you reach your credit, they will give you another thousand dollars and that is new limit. what has now happened is capitol hill has suspended that limit, now you are going to american express card with no limit and you have given the president no limit until mid may? >> i don't think american express would like the comparison because it couldn't be as bad. [ laughter ] >> but they are limited by the appropriations process and house and senate under the constitution have the power of the purse. he is not supposed to spend important. having said that, you are right. it's a huge problem. we should not extend the debt limit again. what is coming up, it may be four to six months unless there are legally spending cuts. i proposed that legislation. it got a lot of votes on the floor but it's simple idea. reduction of spending for every dollar increase in debt limit and you get to balanced budget over ten year
with this sequester, it was a total disaster for them. then they decide not to fight on the debt ceiling and they need to move the attention on to something else. say they do have leverage elsewhere. so they have chosen sequester and put up a very brave face on it. it's possible they could convince themselves to let it actually happen but the idea that they get some sort of significant political gain from it, these are cuts they hated and they hated in large part because they hurt things they care about. so to permit the sequester to go forward on that kind of rationale is not a political win, not a policy win. everybody is losing. >> the "new york times" op-ed says more than a million jobs are on the line if this deal isn't made. a quote saying the losses will soon spread as contracts to states and cities are cut, education and police grants are cut, and payments to medicare providers are cut, even the aid just approved to victims of hurricane sandy will fall under the sequester's act. americans are about to find out what happens when an entire political party demands deficit reduction at all costs b
these entitlements. >> first they argue the debt ceiling was their leverage. then they realize politically that was problematic for them. now that we resolved that at least for now although we still have to deal with it down the road, you've got deficit reduction that they perceived to be their leverage through shutting the government down or allowing what both republicans and democrats agree is an unacceptbly large set of spending cuts in the sequester which were designed to incentivize us to sit down. we're not going to be able to deal with this by march 2nd. let's make sure we avoid those cuts. >> absolutely. >> so here's what i think we have to look out for. i was up on the hill testifying this morning, and i'm picking up the following. i think what republicans would like to do is actually cancel the defense part of the sequestration and shift those cuts on to the non-defense side. that must be avoided. look, first of all in my view all these cuts ought to be avoided the way the president was talking about today. but what i just described absolutely must be avoided because it puts all
off the debt ceiling fight they'd be able to take control of this issue. >> let's play what mitch mcconnell said just yesterday slamming the democrats for floating new revenue proposals. >> this is just another opportunity to trot out the democrat focus group approved policy stunt. if this is another fake fight designed by the white house to push us to the brink, then republicans are really not interested in playing along. >> molly, another fake fight. as it was described by mitch mcconnell there. but we know when you look at polling and watched since the end of the year, the polls show it's republicans who come up short where people believe they're presenting the fake fight, at least some of the polling. >> well, it is interesting to hear mcconnell describe it as focus group approved. they believe public opinion on their side and if there is what is viewed as gridlock and dysfunction in washington, republicans are blamed by that. i think the white house concluded, looking back on the last four years, that every time republican sort of faint and clutch their pearls about my gosh, he'
. >>> say farewell to the old fiscal cliff and debt ceiling and get used to this word. sequester. it hit in march if congress doesn't act. if you lost track of the debt ceiling and budget battles t came out of the debt limit deal. it was the white house's idea to hold washington's feet to the fire. the cuts were never supposed to happen. the committee that replaced them failed and at the start of the ewe near, the deal triggered even further until march 1st. we are faced with the looming cuts a few weeks away that boiled down to $85 billion that will be slashed by this fall if nothing happens. the focus has been on the cuts and the entire $1.2 trillion will be a 50-50 defense between defense and spending. to put us into perspective is the center for social inclusion. the sequester was designed to be something that would never happen. prot expect would scare washington into coming out with something else. there sounds out of washington, particularly from republicans that they might be okay with nothing happening and sequester being triggered. half is defense and half non-domestic discreti
, guns, his approach to the fiscal cliff, his approach to the debt ceiling. everyinning tonally is this is -- it's not my way or the highway, but it's much more my way than, hey, let's meet in the middle. it's sort of like i won, deal with this reality, and let's move forward. we'll see. it's actually worked pretty good effect thus far on things like the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling. republicans will try to draw a line somewhere. i'm not sure why yet. >> they thought they could draw it on national security with chuck hagel, and we've seen in the last 48 hours the president picked up the phone and he cauldron widen. he hasn't called too many senators too often, even in his own party. he cauldron widen because they had a real obstacle, and he knew that his cia nominee, his close friend, someone he is really eager to have confirmed john brennan, was in trouble going to that hearing. now not so much trouble. >> not so much trouble. these hearings are always as much about the -- using the moment as a lever to dislodge things that congress wants as they are about the nominee himself.
you go to 2011 and see that seven months was dedicated to arguing about the debt ceiling. the debt ceiling, which does not one thing to add to the budget deficit. not one nickel of spenning, it's agreeing to pay the bill. we waited seven months and threaten ord credit rating. the american people are sick of that. they want action. they want their taxes low, as we just saw happen reinly in avoiding the fiscal cliff -- which came as i might add through bipartisanship. the republicanses came through with the table to what obama proposed and he compromised with raising it to the $4,000 level. that's the action that people want to see. >> speaking of our president, he said during obamacare, oh, you're premiums wouldn't be raised. sorry, david. that's exactly what we are seeing -- >> when 2014 comes along -- [overlapping dialogue] >> americans are not able to keep their health insurance. another thing the president promised. >> i have to say, after an absence of david being out, with personal issues and health issues, we are glad to see you back. >> it's a pleasure to be back. >> happy t
with this recent debt ceiling vote. i think, basically, business is going to have to come forward like with regard to the debt ceiling and say look, you can't do this. you are going to wreck the economy of the united states and wreck the economy of the world. i'm hoping that we won't get there. but, alex, i have to tell you, it would not shock me if we do. >> okay. let's switch gears. on the heels of the senate confirmation hearing for chuck hagel, has the political climate changed with the new members of congress on board? >> well, you know, with regard -- first of all, with regard to chuck hagel, the media basically reported that he got beaten up pretty bad. i didn't see it that way. i thought he held his own. i anticipate that we will have a lot of motion, commotion and emotion but chuck hagel will be confirmed. he'll do a great job. after all, the president should have the persons he wants to carry out his policy. i think that will be the case. with regard to the new congress, we have to have a wait and see situation. the number of tea partiers lost their seats. they're still a strong force in
fought the president on the debt ceiling. he called the obama administration the imperial presidency. he stepped out today to show there are no rough edges in this republican party. let's listen to cantor today. >> we'll advance proposals aimed at producing results in areas like education, health care, innovation, and job growth. our solutions will be based on the conservative principles of self-reliance, faith in the individual, trust in family, and accountability in government. our goal is to ensure that every american has a fair shot to earn success and achieve their dreams. >> what a cover-up. your party ought to be ashamed of itself. you spent months in every state legislative capital trying to keep black people and poor people from voting or young people. now you're out pretending that you care about opportunity in america. it's an absurdity eric cantor -- >> the speech by eric cantor was a very good speech. >> if it wasn't given by him maybe. >> eric cantor is a good guy. he's got a family. he cares about this country. he's a patriot. he cares about making government work better,
the milestones with the debt ceiling and next up sequestration. >> i think that's exactly right. you see that for the gdp numbers, for example. fourth quarter gdp numbers down and in large part because of government spending. redust in the military spending because of the draw down in the war but government spending does help the economy. >> right. >> clear that's been the case looking, for example, at great britain. they're in the double-dip recession right now doing the same austerity measures republicans oppose and we have had 6.1 million new jobs added in this economy and i think that the problems are we have to invest in education, make sure people have opportunities and make sure that the government doesn't pull back right now. >> what we also know is there are republicans who still strongly say and assert that the stimulus did not work and they do not believe in exactly what you just said. >> economists, the majority of those interviewed by "wall street journal" believes the stimulus works. 3 million jobs because of the stimulus and other thing is about the education thing i menti
've sat in the chair whether it's debt ceiling, sequester. we have got to stop inflicting wounds on this economy. it is political malpractice. >> indeed, it is. jared bernstein and dana milbank, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead, but first a lighter moment with the president as he announces his latest cabinet pick. >> when sally's confirmed, i'm willing to bet that she will be the first secretary of the interior who frequently hikes and once spent a month climbing mountains in antarctica which is not something i'd do. because it seems like it'd be cold. and i was born in hawaii. ♪ [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmiss
on the debt ceiling question. the they did lift it. and i don't think they'll ever do that again unless they completely lose their minds. that is no longer a hostage worth taking. and now we'll see what they do on the sequester. i look with faith to the house progressive caucus that any deal that is reached does not include bad cuts. and i think there's still a little danger ahead. but the president has a much stronger hand than he's had since the beginning of his first term. >> congresswoman, can he use that stronger hand to push forward his agenda? americans came out all over this country. many stood in line for hours to see the country move forward. at the end of the day, will we see the agenda and the fairness and the ro greprogress that peo voted for coming to be? >> we are seeing that the issue of immigration, we're already seeing some gun support. we're seeing gun owners and nra members are with us. what i'm seeing now is an em bolding president and a caucus that's ready to roll up his sleeves and support his agenda. >> now, joan, at a prayer breakfast today, the president talked
, the debt ceiling. now the sequester. i mean, we're now talk about perhaps $85 billion in spending cuts in 2013 if they don't get their act together on the sequester. that's pointing exactly in the opposite direction. so the fed is kind of setting the table but not getting the support from the congress on the fiscal side. >> so given the looming debt ceiling limit here, this week on morning joe the "new york times" economist argued why the u.s. should spend now and worry about deficit reduction later. here it is. >> dashing spending when you still have depressed economy is really destructive. it's probably even counterproductive even in purely fiscal terms. we should be sustaining government spending until we have a stronger economic recovery. >> this is not a hard call. as long as we have 4 million people who have been unemployed for more than a year, this is not a time to be worrying about reducing the budget deficit. give me something that looks more like a normal employment situation and i'll become a deficit hawk but not now. >> do you subscribe to that, jared? or is that too extre
of important to make the distinction. the debt ceiling was scary as hell. we didn't know what would happen. if the united states stopped honoring its debts even for a day, who knew what would happen to the world financial system. this time if it goes moont, it's not the end of the world but it's big. this is a substantial spending cut in a depressed economy. this is exactly the wrong time to have fiscal austerity of any kind and the defense spending cuts are job destroyers, just like anything else. so not -- this is not what we want to see happen. if it all goes through, it's a pretty significant -- it's enough to push us is certainly into rising unemployment, possibly even back into recession. >> i want to listen to something that john boehner said about how we have handled deficits over the years. let's listen to this. >> at some point, washington has to deal with its spending problem. now, i've watched them kick this can down the road 22 years that i've been here. i've had enough of it. it's time to act. >> that is -- i'm trying to think of a word other than lie. kick the can down the r
will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to him. it needs to stop. >> this is not a complicated concept. >> he's standing strong. and that's making it even harder for an already divided gop to regroup. take exhibit a. earlier today, tagg romney's name was floated as a possible gop senate candidate in massachusetts. he's since bowed out. guess he saw what happened to the last romney. . >>> and then there's this. gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> good to
deal on the debt ceiling. then came the fiscal cliff, that was the next chance to prevent all of the cuts. washington punted, they said hey, three more months, we'll solve it then. nope. now three months is coming so guess what? they will punt again. you know what, thinking about it today, it reminded me a lot about this. ♪ put your little hand in mine ♪ put your little hand in mine ♪ put your little hand in mine ♪ there ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb ♪ >> that of course was "groundhog day." at least they had a good song. we have to listen to the terrible voices of people in washington. "outfront," michael waldman from nyu school of law, and michael medved, conservative commentator. great to see both of you. the president asking for a smaller package because a bigger deal can't get done. how is this moving the ball forward? there's blame to go on both sides here but it is pathetic. >> i think he probably would say that it's better to kick the can down the road than to kick the economy off the cliff. this is kind of a self-inflicted answer to a concocted cri
did it on -- he did it on the debt ceiling. he did it on sandy aid. could it be -- could his days be numbered? >> after the fiscal cliff. he promised he wouldn't do it again. he told his members. he has said that he won't do it again, but there's going to be pressure on a ton of issues, and, you know, for him it's going to be a personal decision. in some ways that's how it's framed in washington whether it comes down to whether or not there will be a continuation of the hastert rule. it's about speakership. >> in terms of let's say it's a rosier picture than we thought it would be on gun safety laws. i guess how much of that rosyness carries through on immigration. it could really go either way, i think. there is still a debate over the path to sit sflenship. >> as well as on immigration frankly. i'm not down there counting votes, and howard might be -- you put a number 30, 40 house republicans that would be for some sort of gun control. on immigration it almost seems like the numbers are closer to 100. especially in some of the conservative districts. that's really what's changed
go through. they also are girding for another big battle over potentially a debt ceiling extension months down the road, and they're really thinking about, you know, a fight over the sequester or not, using this sort of yearlong view and thinking about the bats down the road and not using all their leverage right now. >> we got some projections yesterday on the deficit, projected to be $845 billion, that would be under a trillion for the first time since 2008. does this play into all of this discussion at all? >> i mean, it's fairly consistent with the president's proposal, which is to say he doesn't want to cut spending too much right now. he wants to do some long-term spending reduction on the de deficit. republicans say don't trust him. i don't think republicans will be swayed by the cbo report. they have what they see as a mandate from voters, cut spending. >> let me bring in congressman john yarmuth. what would you like to see? >> i think some of the spending you mentioned could be very youthful. some of the farm subsidies that are unjustified. i'd like to consider a securitie
, but things look good. we did not go over the fiscal cliff and we did not hit the debt ceiling. evidence is piling up. >> that's true. here is the thing that struck me about hagel hearings, it seemed at times that chuck hagel was surprised that these people were not happy with him. it's as if he did not read a newspaper in month. >> his response to the surge question. mccain is the biggest supporter of the surge, he led it. chuck hagel disagreed and mccain seems to be right. and hagel looked surprised by the question. in defense of molly's story and washington is getting better. that was not about dysfunction of washington, the two of them just do not like each other. that has nothing to do do with the broader things washington. the issue matrix is changing a bit. what we with saw in 2009 and 2010, when health care and economy were on the table, those are where the parties are fundamentally divided. that is going to be true. but the immigration, there's not the same divide with them. so it's not a polarizing issue with john kerry. part of the reason we are seeing less dysfunction -- on o
of the debt ceiling vote to do wait has not done in the last four years and that is present a budget resolution for four years the senate said we don't care if the law requires us to do it. we'll ignore that. martha: let's hope dave camp's proposal of taking on tax reform is something republicans have been talking about for a long time. chinned with the fact that the senate must act on a budget must get us into tangibles in terms of this discuss in washington. carl, thank you so much. always good to talk to you. gregg: disturbing information about iran's nuclear program. martha: this is one of the most interesting moments of the game. the light went out. i thought this was a blowout game and the next thing you know -- a firsthand account from what it was like at the stadium from a familiar football fan. hey, it's me, progressive insurance. you know, from our 4,000 television commercials. yep, there i am with flo. hoo-hoo! watch it! [chuckles] anyhoo, 3 million people switched to me last year, saving an average of $475. [sigh] it feels good to help people save... with great discounts
the board cuts part of the deal that was made, the debt ceiling debate of 2011. republicans say it is now time for the president to do something. >> this week, i'm pleased to join my leadership in putting forward the require a plan act that will say to the president two specific things. put a budget in place that balances with a continue-year period of time, but if you don't, tell us when it does. tell us when your plan balances. families and businesses across the great nation must work on a balanced budget. they can't borrow and spend as far as the eye can see. this president, it's time for him to step up, put forward a balanced budget or tell us when his budget will balance. >> for more on what we expect to hear from the president, we want to bring in my colleague and friend, john king in washington. john we know the president will try to kick the can forward here, talk about the need for revenue, as well as spending cuts but not deep cuts that everybody's concerned. what do we expect? >> a familiar haunt for both of us, the white house briefing room. using the power of the presidency t
and the democratic party. in terms of the debt ceiling deal, the fiscal cliff, the bipartisan senators who came together on immigration, which, aga again, that's kind of a rope thing in washington, d.c., but it's been absent for the last couple of years. when george w. bush was elected, no child left wind was a top domestic priority and you had a kind of gang of eight style thing. >> no child left behind just didn't happen. bush reached out to ted kennedy, and you worked the issue and -- >> sure. they worked on the recovery act. they want today recovery. >> they didn't work on the -- >> yes, they did. >> it was one of those ludicrous republican myths that obama didn't reach across the aisle. and ma myth is so foundational to a lot of republican thinking and i'm guessing to you and i it seems so divorced from reality that it's hard to even engage with, right, the idea that obama didn't attempt to genuinely attempt a bipartisan governing style. >> you can call it a myth. i think the proof is in the pudding. i think that this -- >> so you blame obama for the fact that there's this -- >> listen, i'
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